- What you are saying Charles is correct. Yet, as a man who sees the divine design in this world, I don't think there is much point in so called Jews willingly doing the anti-Torah thing on the Land of Israel. The whole purpose of Hashem linking the Children of Israel to this Land of Israel in the first place is to separate us from the goyim, from the nations, so that we can "do" the Jews, that is to be His holy people without their negative influence. If we behave like them, this project loses significance and we might as well be in Uganda or where we came from. In short, Jewish nationalism makes sense only if it is Jewish. If it is just another nationalism, it is useless and indeed outmoded. I think that is at least one of the reasons why there is so much confusion.
- This is talkback # 51 on Haredi use of Holocaust symbols denounced
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